Wednesday, 28 May 2014

"But since when has MRAs done -anything- for male victims”

hellnoradfems answers Feminist attacks on Male Rights Activism

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I doubt feminists would be against helping to fund male support groups for domestic violence and sexual abuse”

Erin Pizzey started one of the first women’s shelters in the modern world. Pizzey has been the subject of death threats from feminists because of her claim that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are equally as capable of violence as men. Because of feminists who not only threatened her, her family, and shot her family dog she went into exile for over a decade.

Here’s a fundraising campaign to build a men’s shelter in Ohio that only raised $235 of its $100,000 goal. If this were a fundraiser for a women’s shelter the goal would have been met in no time.

According to a special report by SAVE, “An estimated 1,200 abuse shelters are currently in operation in the United States. It’s well-known that most of these shelters routinely turn away male DV victims, or provide them a substantially lower level of service.

One former shelter director revealed,  ’The shelter did not provide services to male victims of domestic violence, even when the men had suffered physical abuse similar to what women had experienced.’

Psychologist David Fontes noted that when he advised male victims to call local domestic violence programs for help, his clients found that ‘either the shelters and centers never returned their calls, or they were told by the workers that they really don’t have the services for male victims of domestic violence.’ In those cases when men in desperate straits showed up at their door for help, Fontes noted that ‘some of the men felt they were treated at these shelters and centers more with suspect than respect.’

Ironically, not only do shelters discriminate against male victims, they also treat female batterers as victims. In one case a female abuser called wanted to get help with her anger management problem, but the local domestic violence center ‘tried to convince her that she was a victim and not a perpetrator.’

In a more curious case:
A woman was arrested and ordered out of the house following her assault against her husband. She was referred to a shelter. Her attorney provided the shelter counselor with a detailed account of what had transpired: ‘Mrs. C. grabbed Mr. C. by his necktie (and) he pushed her away. Mrs. C. then punched his face and her fingernail cut his neck.’ And how did the shelter workers assess the situation in its records? ‘Physical abuse’ of the woman by her husband.

Judy King Smith, director of the Rape and Domestic Violence Information Center in Morgantown, West Virginia, once admitted, ‘We do not shelter men in the shelter even if it’s empty.’


For the simple reason that ‘we were founded for the purpose of providing shelter to battered women and their children.’

According to Boston Globe columnist Cathy Young, these coordinating councils ‘formally require member organizations to embrace the feminist analysis of abuse as patriarchal coercion.’ An example of that perspective came from the director of the Massachusetts Coalition Against Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence, who made this dismissive comment about male victims: ‘Sometimes it snows in Florida … but we don’t make public policy around it.’

These coalitions have not been welcoming to organizations that serve male victims.

In Maine, the Maine Coalition to End Domestic Violence refused to approve the application for membership from the Domestic Abuse Helpline for Men, explaining that our ‘current criteria require that membership be organizations whose primary purpose is to provide a full range of services to battered women and their children.’

In New Hampshire, the New Hampshire Coalition against Domestic and Sexual Violence likewise refused membership to the Violence Intervention Program – New Hampshire, on the grounds that VIP-NH, which had a predominantly male clientele, duplicated the services already provided by A Safe Place, a domestic violence crisis center located in the same area. But Ann Venier, the center’s education and outreach coordinator, had a different story to tell: ‘We did not provide shelter to any men.’

More recently, a survey of 3,410 shelter persons residing at 215 abuse shelters in eight states found fewer than one percent of the respondents were male.”

TL;DR Feminist organizations influence shelters to reject male victims, attempt to convince female aggressors that they are the victim,  and shelters serve less than one percent of male victims across the United States. Feminists do not acknowledge male victims, don’t care about them, and threaten those who tell the truth.
"But since when has MRAs done -anything- for male victims”

Earl Silverman was a men’s rights advocate who operated Canada’s only shelter for male victims of domestic abuse — doing so out of his own pocket and without government funding — but was forced to sell the property because he couldn’t afford its upkeep.

Silverman attempted to get funding from provincial and federal governments to help run his shelter and home, but believed he was always refused because the space was dedicated to helping male victims and their children. Silverman committed suicide last year in April due to personal demons.

The incredibly high suicide rate of males around the world in comparison to female suicide rates has always remained a main focus for men’s rights groups.

TL;DR MRAs have done something for male victims, you stupid twat. Perhaps if feminists weren’t around every fucking corner trying to thwart their pursuits to understand male issues and figure out solutions to them then maybe there would be more examples of things they have done.

Maybe feminists should just fuck off and stop protesting MRA events, tearing down posters promoting them, and attempting to slander their movement at every turn. In other words, MRAs never gave a fuck about feminists before they started to slander them.

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