Sunday, 24 May 2015

Response to a SJW claiming Paul Nungesser is a multiple rapist

x3nos:

x3nos:
brett-caton:
x3nos:
It really irks me how people use Emma’s text messages as proof that she wasn’t raped because
a. It’s not at all uncommon for abuse/sexual assault victims to continue to date or stay friends with the person who hurt them.
b. Traumatic events take a long time to fully process, especially if said victim is in denial about it.
LMAO using Return of Kings as a “source”. My my what a “professional” you are on the matter.
There are people who have studied trauma who do acknowledge that shock, self-blame, and denial are ALL COMMON. But clearly I won’t be able to convince you of that because you will swiftly write them off as “feminists” before sticking your head up your ass. Any study that doesn’t line up with your pre-conceived beliefs is just “feminist propaganda”, amirite?
Jfc I’m telling what I ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND but apparently because I don’t have a medical degree it doesn't count for anything. How convenient for you. Now you get to disregard every personal experience brought to you by people who have actually experienced the shit you’re spewing nonsense about! WELL DONE~~
“You realise people used anecdotes to prove black people were stupid or Jews greedy? That all gays were pedos and lesbians twisted and cruel?”
WELL OKAY THEN yes let’s take this from one extreme to another because talking about trauma is the equivalent to being a racist homophobe, apparently.
Uhng, try harder. Troll harder.
“The opinions of fellow feminists talking from anecdote has no weight.
And here you are assuming the people I speak of are all feminists. Again HOW CONVENIENT! SUCH A CONVENIENT WAY TO BRUSH OFF PEOPLE’S REAL EXPERIENCES BECAUSE THEY DON’T LINE UP WITH WHAT YOU ALREADY BELIEVE.
“She talked to others afterwards - with no sign of injuries and no sign of discomfort.”
Because showing people your anus is a part of day to day interaction.
“You have no idea of the number.”
A simple google search provides you with this statistic:
“Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (Rape in America: A Report to the Nation. 1992 and United Nations Populations Fund, 2000a)”.
And look, a real source! i.e. not ROK.
“Not to you, of course! You believe.
And you believe too. You believe she is a liar, despite the fact that the man who she accused of raping her has been accused of sexual assault by multiple people, some before Emma became famous for carrying around a mattress. Inb4 you claim they were all friends. They weren’t.
And then you close your post with her messages, which I’ve already read and already explained why it doesn’t prove jack shit.
At least you tried.
“LMAO using Return of Kings as a “source”.“

You just don’t get it, do you. The beauty of the truth is it’s the truth no matter who says it. If Adolph Hitler said 2+2=4, then it equals 4. If the nicest person the world has ever produced says it’s 5, THEN THEY ARE STILL WRONG.

And the article there cites their sources - but you don’t read it because you judge the truth of things based on how you feel about them.

You do realise I’m talking to you because I needed an example of SJW stupidity, right? The faulty way they process information, the reliance on logical fallacies, on personal attacks and strawmans...

“what a “professional” you are on the matter.”

Like that one. Quote me saying I’m a ‘professional’, fuckhead.

“There are people who have studied trauma who do acknowledge that shock, self-blame, and denial are ALL COMMON“

Moving the goalposts. Find the experts who agree with your initial argument, not the new watered down version. Find ones that will say the rape victim will, days, even weeks afterwards, PURSUE THEIR RAPIST SEXUALLY.

After a brutal anal rape, during which they allege they were injured, they screamed... and yet mysteriously, were never heard, mysteriously, had no visible injuries...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/03/columbia-student-i-didn-t-rape-her.html

“In an email to The Daily Beast, Sulkowicz confirmed that these records were authentic and not redacted in any way“


On Aug. 29, two days after the alleged rape, Nungesser messaged Sulkowicz on Facebook to say, “Small shindig in our room tonight—bring cool freshmen.” Her response:

lol yusss

Also I feel like we need to have some real time where we can talk about life and thingz

because we still haven’t really had a paul-emma chill sesh since summmmerrrr


On Sept. 9, on a morning before an ADP meeting, it was Sulkowicz who initiated the Facebook contact, asking Nungesser if he wanted to “hang out a little bit” before or after the meeting and concluding with:

whatever I want to see yoyououoyou

respond—I’ll get the message on ma phone

On Oct. 3, Sulkowicz’s birthday, Nungesser sent her an effusive greeting; she responded the next morning with, “I love you Paul. Where are you?!?!?!?!”


You’ve ignored all of this. You don’t want to know. You certainly seem incapable of addressing my arguments or responding to new information.

You’re a moron, and I think I’ve extracted all possible entertainment from you, so I’ll finish this off and block you. You had a chance to respond - you could have refuted my points in the eyes of other readers, even mine perhaps - but no, no, that would have been work.


“I won’t be able to convince you of that because you will swiftly write them off as “feminists” “

I do not give a shit. I want to see their entries on PubMed or similar accredited journal. No, being a Feminist is not good enough. If they have done scientific research, it has to be peer reviewed, then cited, to have any weight.

You ain’t got diddly except for your feel-feels.

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“Jfc I’m telling what I ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND “

So what? Every religion has someone who experienced first hand the voice of god telling them they, uniquely are hearing the voice of god, and everyone else is wrong.

Your feelz means nuttin’.

A simple google search provides you with this statistic:“Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (Rape in America: A Report to the Nation. 1992 and United Nations Populations Fund, 2000a)”.

So your source is from 1992 and you couldn’t even be bothered providing the url?

Fucken oath, you are one lazy piece of shit.

So after DOING YOUR FUCKING OWN RESEARCH FOR YOU, I come across https://www.victimsofcrime.org/docs/Reports%20and%20Studies/rape-in-america.pdf?sfvrsn=0

Huh,  maybe it’ll be there.

I search on “Only 16% of rapes”

“The National Women's Study found that only 16% or approximately one out of every six rapes, are ever reported to police”

This is just a reference to another reference... to http://www.nwsa.org/

A feminist website. Not a scientific reference, not PubMed, or a psychiatric journal - but a feminist organisation.

Your very first reference and


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Oh well, don’t feel too bad. No, that’s not fair.

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“And you believe too.”

After weighing the balance of evidence. All she has to do to change my mind is to walk to that police station, and make her case to a judge and jury. That’s how it works. She avoided that. Then her texts were exposed... and that was damning.

I’m prepared to shift my position but I’m willing to bet it’ll never come to that because you feminists HATE having your lies exposed - and that’ll happen in a courtroom where you can’t control the narrative, where making up bullshit like your fugue states that last for months will just be laughed at.

You think judges will take your SJW bullshit? think again.

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“You believe she is a liar, despite the fact that the man who she accused of raping her has been accused of sexual assault by multiple people”

And yet none of them seems able to talk to the police. How convenient.

“Inb4 you claim they were all friends. They weren’t.”

Don’t care. They know where a phone is. There’s nothing stopping them from calling the cops. He’s innocent until proven guilty - NOT INNOCENT BECAUSE YOU FEEL HE’S GUILTY.

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Every lynch mob works the way you lot work. They need an accusation, that’s all, to build up their hate. They don’t think, they don’t want to think, it’s in the way of the anger, and it feels good, being righteous, being a warrior for social justice, and thinking is hard and cold and means YOU CAN BE WRONG.

But thinking is the only fucking decent thing to do, which is why your kind keeps bloody avoiding it.


“And then you close your post with her messages, which I’ve already read”

I don't care if you 'read' them, you didn't reflect on them - it was beyond you....

your name wouldn't be Otto, by chance, would it?



" Rape Trauma Syndrome is recognized by medical and psychological professionals the world over."

Yet it seems strangely absent from scientific journals. Reminds me of when Satanic cults operating childcare was 'recognised' the world over...

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