Friday, 1 July 2016

"Feminists treat men badly. It’s bad for feminism"?

https://img.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/sadmenz.jpg
It turns out that telling men that
they are scum who rape their own daughters
might not be the best recruiting tool.

Who knew?





I was reading Cathy Young's article on this subject. I agree with her, mostly, but I think she's missing the point.

Feminists hate men.

They tolerate the ones that they call 'allies' in the same way slave owners tolerated their slaves - but they don't want to have their 'allies' allowed to share the riches of society with them.



Men are starting to wake up to it.

Do feminists need to learn to lie better to keep the men in line?


Or will simply outlawing such statements serve them better?

"...the report writes the following:
Anti Feminism is:
  • attitude, behavior and action.
  • opposition to feminism and gender equality.
  • a desire to recreate a hierarchical social order where heterosexual men are privileged.
  • reluctance to challenge gender, seksualitet- and racial categories."

    no other snapshots from this url

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    30 Jun 2016 21:15:34 UTC
I shall now commit a crime against Feminism.


  • There is no 'wage gap'(source)


  • Men are men and women are women- we are a two sexed species, that is sexually dimorphic



  • I believe the best society is meritocratic- people should earn their position, rather than having it allocated by a feminist point system - with vagina worth the most points, of course!
  • If that means heterosexual men are 'privileged' - so be it.

I have enough fucking attitude for a planetful of MRAs

- and as for punishing people for having the wrong desires?

That's thoughtcrime.

Anyone can have any desires in a free society

- it's deeds that count.

As for having a reluctance to challenge gender categories - will they be arresting scientists who say men are men and women are women? What about black people who want their kids to marry other black people? Oh right - these rules only apply to the 'privileged' white men?


What if you just declare the speakers of such thoughts terrorists, as feminists claim the Southern Poverty Legal Centre has done? Will that be enough?


http://scalar.usc.edu/anvc/travel-and-culture-in-hong-kong-and-macau/media/cultural%20rev%203.jpgI think Cathy's naive, but I love her to death, and I do recommend subscribing to her Twitter feed.

There's no repair for Feminism. Communism had a benign history too, but when it's retained too long, it becomes toxic.

Australian aboriginals were, and sometimes still are, communist - what you had belonged to the tribe - which is fine for tiny groups that always live on the edge of extinction.

Try and scale that up and you get the atrocities of Stalin's Russia, or the Cultural Revolution of Maoism.



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More wage gap sources:


(from http://pastebin.com/jyPvx95t)

The wage gap is a lifetime earnings gap, broken down by hourly pay to get the figures used when they talk about a wage gap.

Like the ".77 cents per 1 dollar a man makes".

Its a misrepresentation, distortion, and misinterpretation of the data. Women by far pick willingly social and retail jobs that naturally pay less, even for men, while men usually go into STEM jobs or dangerous labor jobs which pay a lot more and require many years in school.

There is no discrimination against women, other than grade requirements that men also face.

You cannot compare a middle aged single mother that works part time in a diner, taking more days off and sick days and paternity leave and less over time and compare her earnings in a lifetime to a man fresh out of university entering a high paying field who will take less sick vacation days and who will work more hours and overtime and cry about a wage gap.


US Department of Labor:

So while the gap exists (more like lifetime earning gap), is it because you are oppressed for being women by this mysterious patriarchy who gave you everything you need and use to live and enjoy, or are most women either lazy or just don't care about money the way men do?

The Gender Pay Gap is a Complete Myth

Gender pay gap is not what activists claim

Equal pay statistics are bogus because they don’t compare like with like

Fair Pay Isn’t Always Equal Pay

The Wage Gap Myth

Don’t Blame Discrimination for Gender Wage Gap

The pay inequality myth: Women are more equal than you think

Women Now a Majority in American Workplaces

Labor force participation rate for men has never been lower.

Share of Men in Labor Force at All-Time Low


Women In Tech Make More Money And Land Better Jobs Than Men


Female U.S. corporate directors out-earn men: study



Female CEOs outearned men in 2009.



Women between ages 21 and 30 working full-time made 117% of men’s wages.



According to the U.S. Census Bureau, single women between 22 and 30 years old earn an average of $27,000 a year. That’s 8% more than comparable men. (source)



Workplace Salaries: At Last, Women on Top



Young Women’s Pay Exceeds Male Peers



The 15 Jobs Where Women Earn More Than Men



women aged between 22 and 29 earn over £10 per hour on average, compared to men their same age who earn just under this amount.

http://www.womenintechnology.co.uk/news/young-women-earn-more-than-men—news-800761492

Young women now earn more than men in UK

http://www.womensviewsonnews.org/2011/10/young-women-now-earn-more-than-men-in-uk/

The only chairwoman in the FTSE 100 index of biggest British companies, when asked about government efforts to force companies to make at least 25% of board member to be female said: “there’s no real evidence to suggest women being on a board makes the companies any better – what we’re doing here is forcing an experiment.”

This was further supported in the book “Why Men Earn More” by Warren Farrell, Ph.D., examined 25 career/life choices men and women make (hours, commute times, etc.) that lead to men earning more and women having more balanced lives, and that showed how men in surveys prioritize money while women prioritize flexibility, shorter hours, shorter commutes, less physical risk and other factors conducive to their choice to be primary parents, an option men still largely don’t have. That is why never-married childless women outearn their male counterparts, and female corporate directors now outearn their male counterparts.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0752118220071107?feedTy…

Farrell also lists dozens of careers, including fields of science, where women outearn men. Women simply have more options than men to be primary parents, and many of them exercise that option rather than work long, stressful hours. That is why 57% of female graduates of Stanford and Harvard left the workforce within 15 years of entry into the workforce.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/03/15/optout.revolution/

This is an option few men have (try being a single male and telling women on the first date that you want to stay home).

Blaming men for women’s choices is unfair. In fact research shows most men have no problem with their wives outearning them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23413243

Research also shows most working dads would quit or take a pay cut to spend more time with kids if their spouses could support the family.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/06/13/dads.work/index.html

Research also shows that parents share workloads more when mothers allow men to be primary parents.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-05-04-equal-parenting_N.htm

ABC News: “Is the Wage Gap Women’s Choice? Research Suggests Career Decisions, Not Sex Bias, Are at Root of Pay Disparity”

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/GiveMeABreak/story?id=797045&page=1&CMP=OTC-R

There is also the myth that women are kept out of certain more lucrative fields by sexism. The truth is that women stay away from math out of their own free choice

http://sify.com/news/women-stay-away-from-math-out-of-their-own-free-choice-news-scitech-kk1lubiiiee.html

Women In Science: No Discrimination, Says Cornell Study

http://www.science20.com/news_articles/women_science_no_discrimination_says_cornell_study-75984

Let’s be real about the lack of women in tech

http://www.businessinsider.com/lets-be-real-about-the-lack-of-women-in-tech-2010-10

Here are some by women

http://www.payscale.com/career-news/2009/12/do-men-or-women-choose-majors-to-maximize-income

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704415104576250672504707048.html

US Department of Labor

http://social.dol.gov/blog/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/

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