Tuesday, 15 May 2018

Lifeline cancelled Clementine's Call for Genocide!!

Suicide is mostly a male problem. Clementine Ford has consistently called for men to kill themselves (and each other), and so it was a shock to see her invited as a keynote speaker for the only suicide hotline not already run by manhating feminists.

Lifeline insisted it was good and right for someone who boasted of killing the careers of men to be its very special guest. Because when you run a suicide hotline, I guess you would want someone to push for more suicides - it increases business, that's just common sense!

Anyway, we found out about it and pushed back ... and they finally had to back off.


Men are three times more likely to take their own lives

According to the ABS, “age-specific deaths rates for males aged between 40 and 54 were all greater than 30 deaths per 100,000 males.

Suicide accounted for 12.4% of all male deaths for these combined age groups.

The age-specific suicide rate for males was lowest in the 15-19 year age group (11.8 deaths per 100,000 males), yet suicide accounted for 28.6% of all deaths in that age group.”


Below is the correspondence with LifeLine (in reversed order, alas)

Hi again Brett

Thank you for letting us know how the panel membership for the DV Alert forum event has impacted you. We appreciate it has been an issue that has triggered strong emotions and reactions. As such, we have reconsidered the event.
The forum, including a panel discussion, was intended to be the final event in a month long series of activities. We were open to various ideas being considered in the discussion. However, we are concerned that the forum will not be able to be conducted in the spirit intended and to continue with it will cause some people further distress – and may impact on our ability to offer support to all people in our community. We do not see our role as one that should ever promote conflict or distress and have, therefore, decided to not proceed with the forum.
Lifeline’s mission is to support all Australians in crisis and to do so in a non-judgemental and respectful manner. We do hope that you understand our decision regarding this event and that you continue to support Lifeline and our vision for an Australia free of suicide.

The Feedback Support Team
Lifeline Australia

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From: Brett Caton <brett.caton@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2018 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: Form submission - Enquiries & feedback (893)

Killing is a form of violence she consistently advocates for. She keeps saying she wants all men murdered.

 This seems to contradict your goal of decreasing violence - unless you regard violence towards men to be your goal now? 

If I said I wanted all black men dead, would you have me as a speaker? But all men includes black men. 

So where is the integrity here?  How is it moral to encourage her drive to push men into suicide? 

On 3 May 2018 13:51, "COMMENTS" <COMMENTS@lifeline.org.au> wrote:
Hi Brett

Thank you for your feedback and concern on this matter.

To provide some background, the event being held later this month is part of the DV-alert Recognise, Respond, Refer (RRR) Campaign. DV-alert is a training program – delivered by Lifeline Centres across Australia – that equips health, allied health and frontline workers to RECOGNISE signs of domestic and family violence (DFV), RESPOND with appropriate care, and REFER people experiencing or at risk of DFV to appropriate support services.

The discussion about DFV can be contentious and those involved in the public discussion can sometimes express polarising views – yet there is a strong, unified view that DFV is unacceptable and we need to continue to do more to eliminate it and support those impacted by it. Lifeline does not condone violence of any kind and we promote support for anyone impacted by DFV – that is why we are there for all Australians 24/7 through our crisis support services.

We have an expectation that the panellists will share their views in a respectful manner and in line with Lifeline’s values and commitment to providing all Australians with access to compassionate, non-judgemental support. Lifeline does not necessarily share the views of any panellists but we believe in the importance of providing forums such as this event to share those views and perspectives.

The Feedback Support Team
Lifeline Australia

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Visit lifeline.org.au or phone 1800 800 768.

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From: Lifeline Australia [mailto:no-reply@lifeline.org.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2018 11:52 AM
Subject: Form submission - Enquiries & feedback

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Wednesday, 2 May 2018 11:51 AM
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Brett Caton

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Recently, you decided that Clementine Ford - someone who routinely calls for men to kill themselves - best represents your company.

Clementine Ford has a history of abuse and bullying, even going so far as to call a woman a "cunt" on national TV. She joyfully participated in the hashtag "#KillAllMen".

I am sure I am not the first to point out the problem, or to show you the evidence, but if this is news to you, here are some of her famous tweets. https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uFCCJhU31YY/WugZrwFfVeI/AAAAAAAAE-8/jHhGOvST2lYd8n5P8NZFjK9lUVoIaGBcQCLcBGAs/s1600/clementine%2Bford.jpg

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