Friday, 10 April 2015

When feminists promise to kill your son, should you take it as a joke?

A response to ​"The Myth Of Misandry"

   “All that being said, what about those feminists who joke about misandry?”

You mean, like members of neo-nazi groups joke about hating gays?

I mean, there’s no possibility the hatred could be serious... is there?!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/8aq0km87.jpg

Valerie Solanas is glamourised by Feminists - mythologised into a sexy warrior, fighting the Patriarchy.

She has fan clubs.

Can you imagine the reaction if someone treated a man who shot women in such a fashion?

“While Warhol was on the phone, Solanas fired at him three times. She missed twice, but the third shot went through both lungs, his spleen, stomach, liver, and esophagus.[48] She then shot art critic Mario Amaya in the hip. She tried to shoot Fred Hughes, Warhol's manager, in the head but her gun jammed.[55]

Oh yes, I see now! When a feminist hurts a man, it’s irony. When a man hurts a woman, it’s proof that masculinity is toxic.

Boy, I’m glad I have a brain tumour and can now see the world as you do.

“Isn’t it wrong to say that you hate men, even in jest?”

Only if you don’t genuinely hate men. Is that not clear?

“Isn’t it wrong to say that you hate black men, even in jest?”

“Isn’t it wrong to say that you hate queer men, even in jest?”

Isn’t it wrong to say that you hate those men, even in jest?

Because that’s what you are saying.

You hate us.

All, Of. Us. Black, white, straight and gay, cripples, athletes, priests and publicans  and your hatred is nothing new, we have seen it so so many times before.

“Doesn’t that set the feminist movement, with its declared goal of equality, back a decade or five?”


Because it’s rhetoric and it’s actions have no connection at all. It talks equality like the Nazis talked peace.

It never DOES equality.

“ And above all, where are the men in all of this discussion?”

Your ‘allies’ are grovelling under the table - have you forgotten to feed them again?

And as for the rest of us - we are joining together with others, women, and men, shoulder to shoulder, united - against YOU.

“ Who is thinking about them?”

Not you, I hope, go back to your blogging and wanking and endless self-validations. Don’t mind us - we have stuff to do.

”As writer-editor Jess Zimmerman so perfectly put it in Amanda Hess’ recent Slate column, ironic misandry is a “reductio ad absurdum.””

You advance no evidence that there’s anything ironic about your hate.
You fight to demonise our sex, and put your hate into law.

"It works as a joke because it’s “inhabiting the most exaggerated, implausible distortion of your position, in order to show that it’s ridiculous.”"

So when feminists say they hate men - we can't trust them at their word.

Feminists are liars? That's an interesting defense.

You can’t deny the simple fact that feminism is a movement for women and their boogeyman is the entire male gender. That feminism is about hating men. You simply have to look to what the political and famous feminists say and the complete taciturn approval of the entire feminist movement of those statements:

“The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.” — Linda Gordon

“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”

;“I haven’t the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero- sexual men could fulfill, since they are the very embodiment of reactionary- vested-interest-power.

But then, I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. In addition to doing the shitwork that women have been doing for generations, possibly not exist?

No, I really don’t mean that. Yes, I really do.

; “We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.”

; “I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”

— Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.

From her “The Demon Lover” (NY: Norton & Co., 1989 Morgan doesn’t hide her bigotry):

* p. 138-9: The phallic malady is epidemic and systemic… each individual male in the patriarchy is aware of his relative power in the scheme of things…. He knows that his actions are supported by the twin pillars of the State of man - the brotherhood ritual of political exigency and the brotherhood ritual of a sexual thrill in dominance. As a devotee of Thanatos, he is one with the practitioner of sado-masochistic “play” between “consenting adults,” as he is one with the rapist.

* p. 224: My white skin disgusts me. My passport disgusts me. They are the marks of an insufferable privilege bought at the price of others’ agony.

* p. 229: Sex to this point in my life has been trivial, at best a gesture of tenderness, at worst a chore. I couldn’t understand the furor about it.

* p. 316: Did she die of the disease called “family” or the disease called “rehabilitation”, of poverty or drugs or pornography, of economics or sexual slavery or a broken body?

“And let’s put one lie to rest for all time: the lie that men are oppressed, too, by sexism—the lie that there can be such a thing as ‘men’s liberation groups.’ Oppression is something that one group of people commits against another group, specifically because of a ‘threatening’ characteristic shared by the latter group—skin, color, sex or age, etc. The oppressors are indeed ****ED UP by being masters, but those masters are not OPPRESSED. Any master has the alternative of divesting himself of sexism or racism—the oppressed have no alternative—for they have no power but to fight. In the long run, Women’s Liberation will of course free men—but in the short run it’s going to cost men a lot of privilege, which no one gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is NOT the fault of women—kill your fathers, not your mothers”.

— Robin Morgan

“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo."

— Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex.”

— Valerie Solana, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

“The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness…can be trained to do most things.”

— Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas)

“Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage.”

— Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.”

; “Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.”

; “Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.”

; “Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman.”

; “Q: People think you are very hostile to men.

A: I am.”

; "Men use the night to erase us.”

; “The annihilation of a woman’s personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality.”

; “Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives.”

— Andrea Dworkin, one of the people who created 'Gender Studies' classes along side  Catherine MacKinnon

“Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it ‘Her’.

Men ruin Her.

Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination....

... in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom.”
— Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women.

“The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist” ; “Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice.”

— Ti-Grace Atkinson

“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6

“When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression.” — Sheila Jeffrys

“Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated.”

; “All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman.”

; “You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs.”

“In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.”

— Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.), quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women’s Studies.

“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” — Sharon Stone; Actress

“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.”

— Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female.

“And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference.”

— Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime.

“If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males.”

—Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001.

“If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them.”

- David Angier

“Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.”

- Catherine Comins

“As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE.”

— Marilyn French (her emphasis)

“My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter.”

— Marilyn French; The Woman’s Room.

“All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women… All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men’s prey.”

— Marilyn French

“All men are rapists and that’s all they are”

— Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore’s Presidential Campaign.)

“The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations…obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign.”

— Marilyn French

“I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.”

— Barbara Jordan; Former Congresswoman.

“Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.”

— Germaine Greer.

“Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence.”

— Judith Levine; Authoress

“Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ‘reach WITHIN women to ****/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ‘even if she does not feel forced.’

— Judith Levine, (explicating comment profiling prevailing misandry.)

"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, ‘hate in love,’ for the men women share their lives with—husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers.”

— Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love

“There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of ‘sex acts’…includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder.”

— Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document, (A southern Women’s Writing Collective: Women Against Sex.)

“All men are good for is ****ing, and running over with a truck”.

Statement made by A University of Maine Feminist Administrator, quoted by Richard Dinsmore, who brought a successful civil suit against the University in the amount of $600,000. Richard had protested the quote; was dismissed thereafter on the grounds of harassment; and responded by bringing suit against the University 1995 settlement.

Delaney Nickerson, of the American Coalition for ABUSE AWARENESS, refers to the False Memory Syndrome Foundation as “The ****ing Molesters Society”. (Miami Herald, April 3, 1995) The ACAA is a lobbying group, which includes Ellen Bass (co-author of THE COURAGE TO HEAL), and Rene Frederickson, leading feminist psychotherapist and strong proponent of repressed memory theory.

“Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do.”

— Popular Feminist Graffiti

“I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father’s concubine… What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What’s more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal.”.

— Sylvia Fraser; Journalist

“We are taught, encouraged, moulded by and lulled into accepting a range of false notions about the family. As a source of some of our most profound experiences, it continues to be such an integral part of our emotional lives that it appears beyond criticism. Yet hiding from the truth of family life leaves women and children vulnerable.”

— Canadian Panel on Violence Against Women.

“Catharine MacKinnon maintains that "the private is a sphere of battery, marital rape and women’s exploited labor.” In this way, privacy and family are reduced to nothing more than aspects of the master plan, which is male domination.

Democratic freedoms and the need to keep the state’s nose out of our personal affairs are rendered meaningless. The real reason our society cherishes privacy is because men have invented it as an excuse to conceal their criminality.

If people still insist that the traditional family is about love and mutual aid—ideals which, admittedly, are sometimes betrayed—they’re “hiding from the truth.” The family isn’t a place where battery and marital rape sometimes happen but where little else apparently does. Sick men don’t simply molest their daughters, they operate in league with their wives to “breed” them for that purpose.“

— Donna Laframboise; The Princess at the Window; (in a critical explication of the Catharine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinhem et al tenets of misandric belief.)

"If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal—a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students—I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment…of persuading students that women are oppressed"

— Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women.

"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact.”

—taken from Daphne Patai’s excellent critical work, Heterophobia

“Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men’s violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. Assaults on women and children are mostly perpetrated by men whom they are supposed to love and trust: fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, step-fathers.” — taken from Daphne Patai’s excellent critical work, Heterophobia

“At Brandies I discovered Feminism. And I instantly became a convert… writing brilliant papers in my Myths of Patriarchy class, in which I likened my fate as a woman to other victims throughout the ages.”

— Heather Hart 7

“The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist” (National NOW Times, January, 1988)

“Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage” (feminist leader Sheila Cronan)

In response to a question concerning China’s policy of compulsory abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, “I consider the Chinese government’s policy among the most intelligent in the world” (Gary Bauer, “Abetting Coercion in China,” The Washington Times, Oct. 10, 1989)

“Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole…patriarch!” (Gloria Steinem, radical feminist leader, editor of MS magazine)

“Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women…. We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women.

Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men….

All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women.

We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft
” (from “The Declaration of Feminism,” November, 1971)

“We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men.” — Elizabeth Cady Stanton

From ‘A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

MALE:…represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants…the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.

MAN:…an obsolete life form… an ordinary creature who needs to be watched…a contradictory baby-man…

So you can clearly see, if you’re going to say feminism is not a man-hating movement, I’m going to have to insist that you provide links either to sites showing feminists condemning the statements listed above, or feminists telling women to respect men as men.

"The humor of ironic misandry lies in the fact that, contrary to popular belief, feminists don’t actually hate men."
I mean, it's not like Feminists constantly talk about #KillAllMen, is it?

"I keep seeing people use a line of reasoning that goes something like, well, how would you feel if men jokingly wore t-shirts that said misogynist on them or drank out of mugs labeled “female tears""

Considering feminists had the game "GTA: V" yanked from shelves in Australia because there was "violence against women"

- despite the fact
  1. they weren't real women! No-one has ever proven a link between games and real violence
  2. most of the violence was to men by a huge margin
Then yeah, I don't think it would last long. But look at how feminists reacted to the meninist parody! They went berserk. They added him, along with Richard Dawkins, Brian Cox, Mercedes Carrera and Christina Hoff Sommers, to the Blockbot - where they describe such people as harassers and even pedophiles.

"—and OK, I get where you’re coming from and all"

You might 'get' it but you just don't fucking care. As a third wave feminist, you feel the truth should never get in the way of your propaganda.

" but here’s the thing: if the past bajillion years of history hadn’t happened"

You wouldn't be blogging on your iPhone while sipping your pumpkin latte?

"and if women didn’t experience oppression"

They don't, in the West - where Feminism is focussed on.

"and marginalization on a staggering global scale"

Moving the goal posts - shit is bad outside the West for everyone. Boys are made into slaves but feminism doesn't give a fuck about that. It spends a lot of energy making sure there's no domestic violence shelters for men in the West, however.

" maybe I would find it funny"

Maybe I would find it funny if I took a screwdriver to your eye socket. Maybe, maybe, maybe... maybe we should talk about the fucking real world for a change?

"But things don’t exist in a vacuum"

You really are completely clueless, aren't you?

"the truth is that misogynists actually do threaten, hurt and kill women on a regular basis"

Where is your fucking evidence for that claim?

You have none. Meanwhile, men are dying for the women in their lives all the fucking time.

Jonathan T. Blunk of Aurora, Colo., pushed his girlfriend under the theater seat when James Holmes allegedly started open firing into the audience at the midnight screening of "The Dark Knight Rises." He told her, 'We have to get down.'

Colorado Shooting: Victims Who Died While Saving Their Loved Ones

" So when men “ironically” call themselves misogynists"

Oh, so if the members of the group YOU HATE call themselves misogynists - and I've seen a total of one, out of all the men I've encountered - then it must be that they are lying if they say it's a joke - but should any member of your group say it - and make it clear they mean it - then you have your excuses ready.

"what they’re conveniently forgetting is that misogyny is a very real thing that women live with every day"

Your privileged fanny will never know a world with misogyny in it. Men and boys will be expected to die to preserve your rancid hate-filled heart from harm. And you will spit on our corpses when we are done.

"I promise you—without a hint of hyperbole—that it’s a force that makes us actually fear for our lives."


A woman points. An innocent men dies. She says she was afraid. He can never speak again.

There was another group that constantly claimed it was under threat, that it's acts were always self-defense.

Threats to women could justify any atrocity.

And we know where such manipulation leads.

Where feminism aches to go.

" there are no feminists out there shooting up fraternity houses because of misandry a la Elliot Rodger"

Elliot - the man who killed five men, and two women? Who hated all of humanity?

You look at two female victims and ignore all the men, because their lives mean nothing to a misandrist like you. You like, and lie, and lie again.
You think you can break us? We fought harder battles than you can imagine.

And yes, we paid a price. Your hate cult might kill many of us before it's time is done.
But we will endure. we will be here when you are gone.

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